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Post by jkcarrier on Sept 28, 2009 7:34:19 GMT -8
Diamond Distributing bites the dust in the next 18 months - 65% Doesn't DC have "right of first refusal" if Diamond ever goes up for sale? That could get ugly. I'm not sure the direct market could survive another Heroes World-style distributor war. That seems counter-intuitive to me. If the new corporate bean-counters want to streamline, it'll be the marginal, low-selling titles that get cut, not the big franchises. |
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Post by michaelpaciocco on Sept 28, 2009 12:23:44 GMT -8
I'm thinking the third tier titles that basically hang on to franchise coat-tails - such as "X-Force", "X-factor" and "Avengers: Initiative"
Michael
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Post by jbhelfrich on Sept 28, 2009 12:54:44 GMT -8
Doesn't DC have "right of first refusal" if Diamond ever goes up for sale? That could get ugly. I'm not sure the direct market could survive another Heroes World-style distributor war. It's worse than that; DC actually has the ability at any time to buy a controlling interest in Diamond. That was written into their exclusive distribution contract back at the height of the Marvel/Heroes World mess, so it might have just been a club to warn off Marvel, which DC never had any intention of using once the market calmed down. Of course, now that Warner Brothers has noticed that they own DC, and Levitz is out, any wink-and-nod agreements that went with that provision may be out the door. |
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Post by michaelpaciocco on Oct 29, 2009 13:54:04 GMT -8
Well, that turned out to be interesting....
again....
HOLY FUCK
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Post by jarddavis on Nov 10, 2009 9:58:58 GMT -8
Any chance of an elucidation on that rather cryptic comment considering not all of us read Marvel?
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Post by paulpogue on Nov 10, 2009 10:49:54 GMT -8
SPOILERS:
Warlock, as the Magus, killed half the cast, including Phyla, Gamora, Cosmo, Vance and Mantis, before Peter Quill killed him with the Cosmic Cube. Right around the time we normally expect time to turn backwards and undo everything, it doesn't, and the remaining survivors head home to grieve. The end.
(Admittedly, it's not made clear what happened to the Cosmic Cube afterwards. But still. The whole thing had a decidedly "holy fuck" air of finality about it.)
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Post by michaelpaciocco on Nov 10, 2009 15:41:15 GMT -8
Yes, and it was the ruthlessness of the dispatches that was shocking - it happened at such a rapid clip that before you knew it, half the cast was just gone. It's jarring in an age when character deaths are given such on-panel focus that you didn't even have time to react before the next death came. This was just a huge "fuck you" to decompressed storytelling that it begars description.
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Post by paulpogue on Nov 10, 2009 15:52:25 GMT -8
The massacre was so reminiscent of "Infinity Gauntlet" feel that there was a big chunk of me that just assumed it wasn't going to stick, especially with a cosmic cube hanging around. So yeah -- intense.
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Post by paulpogue on Nov 12, 2009 20:40:17 GMT -8
The Mephisto business comes back in a big way in the conclusion to "Dark Reign": 20 percent The idea that Osborn was actually the one who cut the deal that caused everything to go to hell is one that's been floating around for a bit. Since it makes perfect sense and would neatly tie a lot of things together, it's almost inconceivable that Marvel would actually go for it. But I give it some credit nonetheless. Particularly since bits like this preview from "The List: Spider-Man" seem to tease at the possibility: www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album_view.php?gid=1495&page=1 |
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Post by jessebaker on Nov 12, 2009 21:05:08 GMT -8
You have a better fucking chance that they retcon Mephisto being Loki in disguise than Norman cutting an off-panel deal with Mephito. Not to mention the notion of retconning Norman's resurrection as being Loki hitting Norman with the resurrection stick shortly after he died, as far as retconning Loki playing a massive long game.
Plus, Loki gives you the out to salvage Norman as a character since you can have Norman do the "heroic" sacrifice bit to exile Loki from Earth, which in turn lets you bring Norman back a couple of years later and allow him to re-enter society with his name relatively intact after spending a year as the Big Bad in the Marvel Universe.
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Post by jensaltmann on Nov 12, 2009 23:25:38 GMT -8
Plus, Loki gives you the out to salvage Norman as a character since you can have Norman do the "heroic" sacrifice bit to exile Loki from Earth, which in turn lets you bring Norman back a couple of years later and allow him to re-enter society with his name relatively intact after spending a year as the Big Bad in the Marvel Universe. Who are you, and what have you done with the real Jesse Baker? I mean, "salvage Norman as a character?" Puh-leeze. That's the Quesada-Bendis Kool-Aid talking. The real Jesse Baker would cut out his own tongue rather than even implicity condone anything Quesada and Bendis do. |
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Post by paulpogue on Nov 17, 2009 17:09:07 GMT -8
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Post by paulpogue on Dec 10, 2009 11:14:57 GMT -8
Big Iron Man spoilers for Invincible Iron Man #21:
Aaaaand the backdoor is sprung. Tony erased his mind and is restoring from a backup copy he recorded just before he was infected with Extremis. Iron Fascist is dead, dead, dead and replaced with essentially a past Iron Man who is guilty of none of the atrocities since Civil War. The acts of Comics' Greatest Villain 2006 will eventually be blamed on Extremis anyway, and before long everyone will politely forget about it the way nobody mentions Bug Wasp or Teen Tony.
Nothing lasts forever in comics.
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Post by paulpogue on Dec 10, 2009 11:16:49 GMT -8
Incidentally, they took their damn time doing it, but the fact that Marvel is pretty much admitting that Iron Man was broken beyond all repair short of the reset button sort of implies a surrender vis-a-vis which side was actually right in Civil War, despite all of Millar and Quesada's interviews. Also makes one wonder how far off the Spider-Man trapdoor actually is.
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Post by michaelpaciocco on Dec 10, 2009 13:42:57 GMT -8
-I'd agree that it implied a surrender IF there wasn't a whole 6 page "I'm not sorry" spiel from Stark's holographic living will there. -I'd agree that it would imply that Millar and Quesada had surrendered IF they ever were to acknowledge it in an interview. They won't. -I'd agree that it would imply a possible backdoor on OMD/BND IF AND ONLY IF there weren't so many creators who haven't tied their entire crediblity to the project, including the Marvel EIC and some of the biggest name writers left in this so-called industry. So, yeah - we know we won, but them? Not so much.  |
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