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Post by jensaltmann on Jan 25, 2009 23:31:05 GMT -8
Given that the current Terra is the pet project of Amanda Connors (who has gone out of her way to basically be given free reign over the characters and their convoluted history, as seen by the fact that Terra II's original "genetically altered actress" origin is back in canon), I doubt we'll be seeing Terra I or II. That said, I do hope that we SOME sort of twist in the Zombie Lantern set-up (IE a twist where the Black Lanterns are simply resurrected and don't turn evil and the big twist being that they have to wear their rings at all time lest they die again/bodies turn to dust) and that the the zombie lantern thing is just a cover for the real story of "The Blackest Night" as far as the seven-sided Lantern Corp War. As for New Krypton, it's been suggested online that Geoff and Robinson might be tying them into the restored OG Legion via spreading them across the cosmos, their powers altered, to found the core planets of the United Nations, ala the TMK post-crisis orign for Mon-El/Valor. As for Jean Paul Valley, he's not coming back PERIOD, unless Chuck Dixon is writing him. Fabian N has been quite open, after it got leaked that he's creating a NEW Azreal for "Battle For the Cowl", that JPV is pretty much Chuck Dixon's baby and no one but Dixon can use him or write him. So I don't think Geoff will get to make him a Black Lantern, unless DC REALLY wants to piss Dixon off and burn that bridge beyond all repair. You're getting Chuck Dixon and Denny O'Neil mixed up. |
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Post by michaelpaciocco on Jan 28, 2009 19:32:06 GMT -8
Nova Corps is brutally slaughtered in "War of the Kings": 50%
Richard Ryder's Brother is killed: 20%
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Post by paulpogue on Jan 29, 2009 10:00:51 GMT -8
Good lord, I'll be amazed if more than a handful of Novas survive the War of Kings.
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Post by michaelpaciocco on Jan 29, 2009 13:38:50 GMT -8
Given the number of times the Nova Corps has been slaughtered (I'm counting 2-3 times and that's just in "Marvel time"), I can only assume that the Worldmind's decision to reconstitute the Corps is SPECIFICALLY because it has been infected with Richard's impetousness (which would make a for a nice ironic twist given what's happened).
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Post by jessebaker on Jan 29, 2009 21:50:54 GMT -8
Given the interview Bendis gave recently about the Dark Avengers being better heroes BECAUSE they were unrepentant villains, PLUS the set-up at the end of the newest issue of "New Avengers" as far as Hawkeye gleefully talking about kicking the Dark Avengers butts, I have to think that we are not going to see the Dark Avengers denounced anytime soon. ESPECIALLY if the book keeps selling well.
Odds that New Avengers #50 features the Dark Avengers not only kicking the New Avengers asses but Bendis taking a complete and utter shit on the real Avengers via Norman and the Dark Avengers being cheered by the public AND denouncing the team as villains and traitors? 99.9%
Moonstone reverses her re-descent into villainy and resumes the path to heroism? 79%. She is taking over Ms Marvel's book and God knows, having her as the voice of sanity and morality in Dark Avengers makes sense given who's she's surrounded with. Then again, I could see Bendis being vindictive enough to cripple her again just for fun, seeing how he treats his female characters.
I also sadly don't see us seeing Zemo, Songbird, Speedball, or any of the other MIA Thunderbolts in 2009 or anytime soon. The only way I can see them reappearing is if Diggle's Thunderbolts crashes and burns big time (and I really see it failing, Fight Club-Bolts style) and even then, I could see Quesada and Bendis killing T-Bolts once and for all if Diggle's run fails, seeing as they've already removed all of the stuff from the book that made people like the post-Civil War T-Bolts a fan favorite book. Which in turn brings to mind the horrible image of Bendis throwing a temper tantrum, like a baby, demanding he be given the Thunderbolts characters to write in a new book launched especially for him, not because he WANTS them, but because he doesn't want anyone else to have him because he is the Angelica Pickles of Marvel and any toy he likes, he can steal for his own selfish usage.
But I don't see Bendis or Diggle wanting to use Songbird or Speedball (hence Speedball being sent to a corrupt crazyhouse and Songbird being forced to fake her death and go into hiding) and I definately DON'T want to see Brubaker or Bendis touch Zemo EVER. ESPECIALLY with Brubaker and his Bucky Barnes fetish. He'd ruin and erase the last ten years worth of character development for Zemo in a heart-beat in order to prop up his Bucky Sue via having him beat up Zemo for shits and giggles.
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Post by michaelpaciocco on Feb 5, 2009 13:38:32 GMT -8
Oddball Theory that's probably WAY too smart for the current Marvel geniuses, or too obvious. Take your pick.
Rick Jones is Bucky Barnes biological son - 15%. Given that we now know that Bucky/Winter Soldier was alive and occassional took jaunts over the American hinterscape during his years as a Bourne-like killing machine, it's not impossible for this to be the case. Particularly given how often it has been stated that Rick was a virtually doppelganger of Bucky back during the days of early Marvel.
For your consideration.
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Post by jessebaker on Feb 10, 2009 22:59:04 GMT -8
Oddball Theory that's probably WAY too smart for the current Marvel geniuses, or too obvious. Take your pick. Rick Jones is Bucky Barnes biological son - 15%. Given that we now know that Bucky/Winter Soldier was alive and occassional took jaunts over the American hinterscape during his years as a Bourne-like killing machine, it's not impossible for this to be the case. Particularly given how often it has been stated that Rick was a virtually doppelganger of Bucky back during the days of early Marvel. For your consideration. I would sooner they sweep "Winter Soldier" under the rug of things NEVER, EVER mentioned again via revealing that Rick Jones IS the Winter Soldier, having been tossed backwards in time, losing his arm and suffering enough major brain damage, that he actually THINKS he's Bucky Barnes due to a wacky mistaken identity debacle. Frack, Avengers Forever itself, with it's depliction of Rick having one arm, gives my notion standing ground as far as how to sweep the mentally retarded idea of resurrecting Bucky as a grim and gritty Cable rip-off under the rug of stupid ideas that we never speak of again, much in the same way as "Teen Tony" has been pretty much ignored as never happening. |
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Post by paulpogue on Feb 13, 2009 14:41:54 GMT -8
Problem is, the old, one-armed Rick has already been fully explained in the Peter David Captain Marvel series -- it even pinpoints the exact panel in which Avengers Forever took place.
Mind you, David NEVER seemed interested in trying to explain what really happened to Rick and Cap in the course of everything, and the time travel jiggery-pokery that converted 90s Kewl Jacket Genis into Spacefield Face Genis at the end of AF remains a complete mystery.
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Post by michaelpaciocco on Feb 13, 2009 16:19:45 GMT -8
Actually, I'm going to take a moment and end a long standing KBOX debate: Was Bucky a killler? I've decided to take a look at some of the evidence, culled from an old paperback reprinting some Lee/Kirby "Tales of Suspense" material. From the introduction of Bucky in the Silver Age - Tales of Suspense #63  Non-Lethal Interpretation: Bucky and Cap Damage the Nazi U-boat with the explosives, causing the crew to bail out and be captured. Lethal Interpretation: Cap and Bucky just killed a whole boatload of Nazis. Tales of Suspense #67: Bucky captured in a Nazi Prison   Non-Lethal Interpretation: Bucky carelessly throws the grenade behind him because OF COURSE all the Nazis took cover, and were only winded by the grenade. Lethal Interpretation: Bucky callously and coldly throws the grenade into the room full of Nazis because he's trying to escape a NAZI PRISION camp, reducing the guards to chunky salsa. Later in this same issue, Bucky disguises himself as a paratrooper.  Non-Lethal Interpretation: Bucky is a crack shot and manages to non-fatally shoot the Nazi. He then ties the two of them up. Lethal Interpretation: Bucky ventilates the first Nazi, and then after his buddy has fainted, shanks him between the ribs with a combat knife. Yeah, with the grenade case, I think it's definitely the case that Bucky killed people back in WWII, and that he was probably pretty good at it. |
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Post by jensaltmann on Feb 14, 2009 0:30:42 GMT -8
For me, it was never in doubt that Bucky and, yes, even Captain America, are killers.
It was war. They were soldiers. What do soldiers do in a war?
Right: kill as many of the enemy as they can, in order to win the war.
Case closed.
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Post by paulpogue on Feb 14, 2009 14:57:54 GMT -8
Yeah -- Cap's even said on panel that he killed plenty during the war. Interestingly enough, because of this he himself has a more flexible "no-killing" code than we expect from most superheroes -- he goes out of his way not to kill, and in fact does everything possible to avoid it, but when it comes down to it, he'll kill instantly and without hesitation.
They kind of drove this into the ground in Reiber's post-9/11 terrorist stories, where there were several issues of buildup to Cap snapping a guy's neck. But personally, I think the best commentary on Cap's killing code was in a Mark Gruenwald one-off, the issue with the Mike Zeck cover of Cap with an Uzi looking like the Punisher. The situation was simple: Terrorists with guns, helpless hostages, Flingy is on the other side of the room, terrorist about to pull the trigger on a hostage, and thus Cap's out of time. With about half a second to weigh his options, he grabs a discarded uzi and shoots the guy stone dead.
Later on, spending the evening with the family he rescued, Cap reflects on how much he killed during the war, and how he tries to avoid it today -- particularly BECAUSE WWII was so awful -- but that because of his soldier background, he still has the instincts to pull the trigger without question.
It's pretty well clear, at the end of Busiek's run on "Avengers," that Cap was one of the stronger voices in Carol Danvers' defense concerning killing the Master, as he recognizes that even though killing the Master was probably not THE best option, sometimes you don't have time in war to come up with a better solution.
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Post by jensaltmann on Feb 14, 2009 15:19:57 GMT -8
I found it very amusing, and ridiculous, how Mark Waid made an issue of it during his second run in Cap, and spent the entire comic where the "will he or won't he kill" was the only point of the story not only dancing around it, but in the end resorting to a cop-out, so that he could avoid making up his mind.
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Post by michaelpaciocco on Mar 21, 2009 9:17:42 GMT -8
Ok, slight and very cynical extrapolation from the BSG thread:
Odds that popular culture (TV, Movies, comics, etc) will take the wrong lessons from Battlestar Galactica - 100%.
I expect to see a lot more relentlessly dark, docu-shot TV drama that are utterly bleak and gritty, with vague prophecies and lots of violence, but without the heart of what made BSG work, which was that it held up a mirror to the times and asked hard questions.
At least, that's my opinion.
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Post by michaelpaciocco on Apr 21, 2009 12:16:38 GMT -8
OK, so...who had July 2009 as their date in the pool?
From Marvel's latest solicits
And given Cap is going to its "original" numbering (#601) ...yeah, let's call it on.
Oh, and Hitch, Ross, and Cassaday on art...
Please just don't give us another fugly costume redesign...
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Post by paulpogue on Apr 21, 2009 13:37:59 GMT -8
I blew the pool bet myself; I had Spring 2009 in my personal pool, as I was convinced it wouldn't last two years. So I get close but no cigar.
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