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Post by jensaltmann on Oct 11, 2009 3:45:57 GMT -8
Also I would assume Jens, that you would have the Borg simply adapt the Dalek technology, since actually trying to assimilate the Dalek mind would be a recipe for disaster for the entire universe. The Borg live to assimilate, and that would turn the Dalek into emotionless drones. Of course, if the Borg assimilated the Dalek mind, thereby creating a Dalek/Borg hybrid, I'd say that the Enterprise and the Doctor would have to put in some overtime. (They'd be easy to beat, though. I remember that the first time the Federation encountered the Borg, they won by putting the Borg to sleep -- probably using STTNG reruns.) |
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Post by Mario Di Giacomo on Oct 11, 2009 4:55:36 GMT -8
And somehow, despite the restrictions of logic, the Borg Queen will end up being Davros in drag. ;D
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Post by michaelpaciocco on Oct 11, 2009 6:58:13 GMT -8
(They'd be easy to beat, though. I remember that the first time the Federation encountered the Borg, they won by putting the Borg to sleep -- probably using STTNG reruns.) Actually, not quite. The first time the Enterprise encountered the Borg ("Q who?"), they only got away with their lives because of Q (of course, by that same token, they wouldn't have encountered them so early in the first place if it hadn't been for Q, which, as has been stated in Star Trek continuity, may have made the difference in so far as the Federation finding a means of repelling the Borg). You are refering to "The Best of Both Worlds", considered the highpoint of TNG (Although I find that rather telling about ST fandom), in which a good chunk of Starfleet gets wiped out in the most devestating battle the Federation saw up until the Dominion War. And as far as TNG reruns being boring, I think most of episodes after "Reunification" to be far more boring than anything from the first couple seasons. But that's just my opinion. |
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Post by jensaltmann on Oct 11, 2009 8:21:08 GMT -8
Actually, not quite. The first time the Enterprise encountered the Borg ("Q who?"), they only got away with their lives because of Q (of course, by that same token, they wouldn't have encountered them so early in the first place if it hadn't been for Q, which, as has been stated in Star Trek continuity, may have made the difference in so far as the Federation finding a means of repelling the Borg). You are refering to "The Best of Both Worlds", considered the highpoint of TNG (Although I find that rather telling about ST fandom), in which a good chunk of Starfleet gets wiped out in the most devestating battle the Federation saw up until the Dominion War. And as far as TNG reruns being boring, I think most of episodes after "Reunification" to be far more boring than anything from the first couple seasons. But that's just my opinion. Right, I forgot about that one episode. I considered STTNG completely dull and preachy. I stuck with the first season because I hoped it would get better, afterwards I only watched those episodes with Q or Mother Troi, because those were usually funny. As TNG kept getting duller and preachier in successive seasons, DS9 got interesting just as I was about to stop watching it. Avery Brooks shaving his head = stuff starts to get good (his Hawk series notwithstanding). There was also a point where I dropped Voyager because, never mind how much of a chance I gave it, I considered it completely and utterly and irredeemably unwatchable. Which means the only ST shows I actually enjoyed were TOS and TAS. |
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Post by lostphrack on Oct 11, 2009 19:37:02 GMT -8
I'd discount the Death Star because even if it's a new and improved version without the moronic DROP YOUR BOMB HERE flaw the Feds would find some way to get to the reactor and blow the damn thing up before too long. The Empire probably wouldn't have shields against transporter tech. But the Empire's shields always seem to last longer than the Star Trek shields. Those things get hit once and it's all "We can't take another hit!" Meanwhile the Star Destroyers are getting strafed and the Captains are all "The shields are holding, we're fine" until some dying pilot suicides through the bridge. Argh, stupid shields.. |
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Post by michaelpaciocco on Oct 12, 2009 4:48:03 GMT -8
The Empire probably wouldn't have shields against transporter tech. But the Empire's shields always seem to last longer than the Star Trek shields. Those things get hit once and it's all "We can't take another hit!" Meanwhile the Star Destroyers are getting strafed and the Captains are all "The shields are holding, we're fine" until some dying pilot suicides through the bridge. Argh, stupid shields.. Yes, well, in all science fiction, the shields are just a way to have the ship damaged without worrying too much about the massive fatalities of explosive decompression. Because as much as the Star Destroyers have shields, it hasn't shown them to do a lot of good against: -Asteroids -Ion Weapons -Projectiles ranging from fightercraft to larger, Millienum Falcon sized bits So that point, IMO, is fairly moot. |
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Post by jensaltmann on Oct 14, 2009 9:25:13 GMT -8
This week's Castle makes me thing:
Leverage vs. Castle.
Leverage vs. Monk.
Monk vs. Dexter
Dexter vs. Burn Notice
Leverage vs. Burn Notice
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Post by Anders on Oct 14, 2009 11:12:02 GMT -8
This week's Castle makes me thing: Leverage vs. Castle. Leverage vs. Monk. Monk vs. Dexter Dexter vs. Burn Notice Leverage vs. Burn Notice Leverage vs. CSI Burn Notice vs. CSI |
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Post by liliaeth on Nov 2, 2009 11:58:57 GMT -8
The guys from White Collar vs the Winchester Brothers from Supernatural.
Much as I love Dean and Sam, I'm afraid Burke would probably get them. (and then the boys escape as soon as he turns them over to some lesser cops)
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Post by Anders on Nov 2, 2009 12:38:30 GMT -8
So... White Collar vs. Leverage?
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Post by liliaeth on Nov 2, 2009 13:08:43 GMT -8
So... White Collar vs. Leverage? No idea, I've never watched Leverage. (is it any good?) |
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Post by Anders on Nov 2, 2009 20:36:56 GMT -8
Leverage is fun as long as you don't take it seriously (and can put up with Gina Bellman).
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Post by michaelpaciocco on Dec 2, 2009 20:44:20 GMT -8
OK, couple new scenarios:
Lee Adama has just been made commander of the Pegasus, and the Colonial Fleet has just jumped into a new system - one that is part of a multi-system empire populated by humanity, but the culture shock is extreme - it's an entirely feudal society, one with a distrust of the Colonials because their FTL is machine-based, and their weapons seemingly outmoded. But the same, they will let the Colonials in, and even help them find an unpopulated world to settle, provided they take care of a small problem of theirs.
An uprising by a would-be messiah and his rabble threatens a world.
A world called Arrakis. A world called Dune.
(Bonus points - how do the Cylons react when they enter this realm? Because given how anti-AI that society is)
Next up:
"Cricton! You and your frelling wormholes! Where the hezmana are we now? Or When?"
"Working on it working on it - Pilot? Is that a ship?"
"If it is, Commander, I don't recognize it's construction or design."
"Wait wait- that's english on the side - 'Serenity'?"
"John, what have you gotten us into this time?"
"I don't know Big D, but let's bring them in with the docking web and find out."
And how it will break down:
Mal vs. Cricton - if the fight is at any distance, Mal is the superior gunfighter, but at hand to hand, they both suck, so it would be pretty even, although Mal would probably get the upperhand just in time for Aeryn to save his butt.
Aeryn vs. Zoe - By far the most even fight, but I have to give it to the Peacekeeper in the clinch.
D'Argo vs. Jayne - the funniest fight, but D'Argo's by a longshot.
Discuss.
Michael
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Post by Anders on Dec 2, 2009 23:01:31 GMT -8
Mal vs. Cricton - if the fight is at any distance, Mal is the superior gunfighter, but at hand to hand, they both suck, so it would be pretty even, although Mal would probably get the upperhand just in time for Aeryn to save his butt. Aeryn vs. Zoe - By far the most even fight, but I have to give it to the Peacekeeper in the clinch. D'Argo vs. Jayne - the funniest fight, but D'Argo's by a longshot. Obligatory nerd comment: And then River kills everyone. |
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Post by K-Box on Dec 3, 2009 21:30:59 GMT -8
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Fremen Fedaykin versus Colonial Warriors. METAL.
Problem being that, in the universe of DUNE, part of the reason why every single character has husked voiceover monologues is because their mental, physical and social evolutions have all advanced so far beyond ours that they literally think in layers within layers within layers ("a feint within a feint ...") to degrees that would make the complexity of Machiavelli seem like the earnest simplicity of Corky from Life Goes On by comparison.
The BSG cast would stand a better chance against the humans of DUNE than just about any other cast of characters in sci-fi that I can think of, but you're still left with the fact that humans in DUNE were so goddamn advanced that they literally had a SURPLUS of potential messiahs, since damn near the entire human race had evolved into God Mode Mary Sues.
With that in mind, as soon as Baron Harkonnen or the Padishah Emperor met Brother Cavil and his crew of Cylons, their initial instinctive panic over thinking machines would immediately give way to the realization that, "Holy shit, you people SAY you have a plan, but you've just been BLUFFING this whole time, because you clearly have no idea WHAT the fuck you're doing. You're barely on the level of retarded face-dancers."
That being said? I'd love to watch the scene between Lady Jessica and Laura Roslin go down.
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