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Post by michaelpaciocco on Oct 2, 2011 7:15:08 GMT -8
Rory Williams
Electrocuting him through the eye is just going to make him slightly annoyed.
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Post by jensaltmann on Oct 2, 2011 7:31:10 GMT -8
- In the season 5 opener, when the Doctor told the aliens to run, they did so because they recognized Rory Williams standing in the background.
- The Dalek begged River Song for mercy because it realized that if it hurt River, it would make her father very very angry.
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Post by paulpogue on Oct 2, 2011 8:15:10 GMT -8
Ha. I should have figured I wasn't the only one to immediately pick up on this week's moment of Rory Badassery.
I also enjoyed Amy's brisk grasp of the mechanics going on and Rory just rolling with it.
Rory: I don't think I understand what's going on. Amy: In another universe we got married and had a baby and that's her. Rory: Okay.
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Post by jensaltmann on Oct 2, 2011 10:07:07 GMT -8
Rory Williams is not afraid of death: been there, done that, just another day at the office.
Death, on the other hand, has learned to be mortally afraid of Rory Williams.
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Post by K-Box on Oct 2, 2011 19:15:04 GMT -8
Jens: Slight correction, per Dorium Maldovar's exact quotes: "The question" doesn't matter until it's asked "when no living creature can speak falsely or fail to answer," because what matters is that the question "must never, ever be answered." Which is why "silence MUST fall" at that moment. I've broken down why this question might very well be a game-changer for the entire series on my blog.
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Post by michaelpaciocco on Oct 7, 2011 3:55:20 GMT -8
Really, to me, probably the best feature of the Moffat era is the degree to which prophecy has been refutted, cheated, and blinded. And I really really hope that at some point we see one of these vague prophecies exposed as a sham and completely defied.
Because I hate prophecies. I do.
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Post by paulpogue on Oct 8, 2011 8:03:05 GMT -8
The concept of prophecy in a time-travel show is particularly ironic, yes. I think for the most part we sort of have to ignore it the same way we don't examine too closely why the oldest message in the universe is written in High Gallifreyan, carved in stone on a giant mountain, and the Doctor took 907 to bother to take a look.
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Post by jarddavis on Oct 22, 2011 13:42:42 GMT -8
Anyone notice that one of Dorium's final parting shots to the Doctor before finally revealing the Ultimate Question was "... The fall of the 11th;...?"
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Post by K-Box on Oct 22, 2011 20:21:56 GMT -8
The concept of prophecy in a time-travel show is particularly ironic, yes. I think for the most part we sort of have to ignore it the same way we don't examine too closely why the oldest message in the universe is written in High Gallifreyan, carved in stone on a giant mountain, and the Doctor took 907 to bother to take a look. The great thing about a character like the Doctor is that it's actually very easy to account for that, since it's long been established that he's absentminded, forgetful, thoughtless, prone to procrastination and has literally devoted several lifetimes to avoiding anything that he finds remotely unpleasant. When you're virtually immortal and you live in a time machine like a retiree who's sold his house and gone permanently on the road in his RV, the easiest thing in the world to say is, "I'll get around to it tomorrow."
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Post by jensaltmann on Oct 23, 2011 0:01:01 GMT -8
Old news. Especially since Matt Smith's contract is for three seasons, with an option to renew, and recent interviews had him leave hints that he's not going to use that option.
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Post by paulpogue on Oct 23, 2011 6:50:25 GMT -8
The concept of prophecy in a time-travel show is particularly ironic, yes. I think for the most part we sort of have to ignore it the same way we don't examine too closely why the oldest message in the universe is written in High Gallifreyan, carved in stone on a giant mountain, and the Doctor took 907 to bother to take a look. The great thing about a character like the Doctor is that it's actually very easy to account for that, since it's long been established that he's absentminded, forgetful, thoughtless, prone to procrastination and has literally devoted several lifetimes to avoiding anything that he finds remotely unpleasant. When you're virtually immortal and you live in a time machine like a retiree who's sold his house and gone permanently on the road in his RV, the easiest thing in the world to say is, "I'll get around to it tomorrow." Now that I've had some time to think about it, Moffat has actually gone a long way towards finagling all those issues into a coherent whole. For whatever reason (by which I mean, "all the reasons you just went into") he almost deliberately tries not to know what the hell he's doing, and goes out of his way to avoid knowing too much. Which is why he can show up on his favorite pleasure planet and have no idea it's overrun by plague, and the best response he can muster when Rory yells that he should crack open a history book once in a while it "That's not how I operate!" (Really, Amy and especially Rory see right through the Doctor in a way few companions aside from Sarah Jane have ever done, which is why they exasperate him so much.) And of course, we also have it solidly established, as of "The Wedding of River Song," that he specifically does not know the dates or circumstances of the deaths of even his closest friends. The combination of "irresponsible" and "not actually all that good at the things he does" makes for a highly entertaining character, to say the least. (Although I suppose one could argue that it's actually a bit responsible for him not to check history too closely -- it gets into that "crossing his own timestream" business. I mean, for any given friend, especially one who lives a life as dangerous as the Brigadier, how statistically likely is it that he would look them up and find something along the lines of "killed in action alongside the mysterious 'Doctor' in 2014", and then be tempted to change it? Heck, on those occasions when he wanders into history and knows exactly what's going to happen -- Pompeii, Bowie Base One -- that very knowledge just tends to make his life a lot more difficult.)
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Post by K-Box on Oct 23, 2011 14:25:31 GMT -8
Old news. Especially since Matt Smith's contract is for three seasons, with an option to renew, and recent interviews had him leave hints that he's not going to use that option. Smith has also said that he plans on being involved in the 50th anniversary, so with the gap in production ...
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Post by jensaltmann on Oct 24, 2011 2:25:08 GMT -8
Old news. Especially since Matt Smith's contract is for three seasons, with an option to renew, and recent interviews had him leave hints that he's not going to use that option. Smith has also said that he plans on being involved in the 50th anniversary, so with the gap in production ... The longer he stays, the happier I'll be. I very much like his Doctor.
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Post by jensaltmann on Oct 24, 2011 7:16:45 GMT -8
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Post by jkcarrier on Nov 2, 2011 15:53:13 GMT -8
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