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Post by jensaltmann on Sept 16, 2008 0:39:27 GMT -8
Let me start this out with something really, really stupid.
Like, the name of the 10th Doctor: David TEN-nant.
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Post by K-Box on Sept 16, 2008 1:27:31 GMT -8
Let me start this out with something really, really stupid. Like, the name of the 10th Doctor: David TEN-nant. You laugh, but Russell T. Davies has claimed, perhaps jokingly, that this played a part in Tennant's selection (as did, apparently, Christopher Eccleston as Nine, since "Eccleston" has nine letters). No, really. |
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Post by Patty on Oct 4, 2008 20:36:23 GMT -8
While we wait for Papa Bear to get us copies of Series Four, Michael and I have started rewatching from the beginning.
We're up to "The Sensorites", and now I notice the resemblance to the Ood.
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Post by jensaltmann on Oct 13, 2008 2:00:16 GMT -8
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Post by Patty on Oct 13, 2008 9:37:29 GMT -8
I do hope this reunion comes off.
Time dilation's going to get a workout for some of the fellows, though. Tom Baker could play Hartnell, nowadays, and Colin's four times the man he used to be, weight-wise.
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Post by jensaltmann on Oct 14, 2008 1:05:02 GMT -8
According to LITG, meet the 11. Doctor: Paterson Joseph.  |
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Post by paulpogue on Oct 14, 2008 8:19:57 GMT -8
I do hope this reunion comes off. Time dilation's going to get a workout for some of the fellows, though. Tom Baker could play Hartnell, nowadays, and Colin's four times the man he used to be, weight-wise. Colin's going to be the trickiest one, I think; unlike the others, he simply doesn't LOOK like his old self anymore. Tom Baker may be 30 years older and 50 pounds heavier, but put a hat and scarf on him and he's clearly, instantly recognizable as the Fourth Doctor. Sylvester McCoy looks older but largely the same; Davison's lost some hair and added weight but still looks enough like himself; Mcgann and Eccleston are recent enough it doesn't matter. But even in a curly red wig and the Sixth Doctor clown suit, I'm not sure Colin Baker even resembles the part. We'll see how they pull it off, though  . "Wibbly wobbly timey wimey!", after all. |
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Post by jensaltmann on Oct 14, 2008 8:55:46 GMT -8
McGann is the least of their problems, actually. Nobody really knows how long the 8th Doctor reigned. Could be he was #8 for 300 years at a stretch.
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Post by Patty on Oct 14, 2008 9:09:00 GMT -8
McGann is the least of their problems, actually. Nobody really knows how long the 8th Doctor reigned. Could be he was #8 for 300 years at a stretch. Exactly. Plus my take on the Time War is that the Eighth Doctor is the one who started it, not just took part in it. |
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Post by lostphrack on Oct 15, 2008 0:29:15 GMT -8
According to LITG, meet the 11. Doctor: Paterson Joseph. Is it too much to hope that they'd go with that look too..? |
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Post by jensaltmann on Oct 15, 2008 3:17:15 GMT -8
Probably too much to hope for, yes, although it would be perfect.
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Post by K-Box on Oct 18, 2008 18:25:25 GMT -8
According to LITG, meet the 11. Doctor: Paterson Joseph. Roderick from "The Weakest Link" at the end of Season 1 of NuWho! |
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Post by K-Box on Oct 18, 2008 18:27:01 GMT -8
Oh, Who fandom, how sorry I am to have neglected you these past few months. As soon as my Election '08 fandom ends next month, I swear, I will make it up to you ... Ahem. Anyway, I've been reading persiflage_1's wonderful ongoing multi-part Martha-Jones-meets-all-the-Doctors fic, A Shift In Perspective, AND our local PBS station has recently re-aired the complete "Key to Time" Season 16 mega-arc of the original series, so between those two, something occurred to me that's been bothering me for a while now: If the White Guardian is the Guardian of Law and Order and the Status Quo, why would he enlist the aid of the Doctor, who is arguably the greatest Agent of Chaos in the known Whoniverse? Because let's not pretend that the Doctor has ever NOT been an Agent of Chaos. Even during the Third Doctor's "Tool of the Man" days as UNIT's scientific advisor, every single story managed to include at least one scene to remind everyone that he was essentially at odds with both the mission and the philosophy of the very same organization that he ostensibly belonged to (as close as the Doctor and the Brigadier have become over the years, Three and the Brig had some intense, and occasionally even outright acrimonious, arguments over the most prudent or conscientious courses of action). The Fourth Doctor was no exception, especially not as he was reintroduced at the start of the "Key to Time." In the very first episode of "The Ribos Operation" serial, the White Guardian basically handed down an ultimatum to Four - who had said his farewells to Leela and K-9 Mark I at the end of the previous season, and appeared to have been travelling alone ever since, however long that might have been - by issuing him both new marching orders and a new partner, in the form of Lady Romanadvoratrelundar. Romana I, who made her debut in this episode, was an aloof, academic Time Lady whose approach was much more by the book than the Doctor's, and simply by bringing her on board the TARDIS, the show refocused the Doctor's identity as an intuitive, roguish outcast from his own people, who flew by the seat of his pants. Thus, by pairing off the reckless, rebellious Four with a prim and proper Girl Scout like Romana I, the show's study in contrasts underscored just how much of an Agent of Chaos he really was. As a driver for drama, it was great ("Dammit, Callahan, just because you get RESULTS doesn't mean you get to BREAK THE RULES!!! YOU'RE A COP ON THE EDGE, DIRTY HARRY!!!"), but it raised significant questions about certain characters' motivations. Not about the Doctor's motivations, though, because however much he might vent his vengeful or inhumane sides at times, his Dungeons & Dragons alignment has usually remained more or less rooted in Chaotic Good territory, and among other things, the White Guardian also happens to be the Guardian of Good. But about the White Guardian's motivations ... now there's a more complicated picture. Yes, it made sense that the White Guardian would recognize and respect the Doctor's goodness, and it made even more sense that he'd saddle an Agent of Chaos like the Doctor with a counterbalancing Agent of Order like Romana I to carry out his agenda, but then again, why would the White Guardian, the Guardian of Order, even recruit an Agent of Chaos like the Doctor to carry out his pro-Order agenda in the first place? The only way I can account for it is by theorizing that the White Guardian, in spite of himself being the pure personification of Order, knew that there are some things that Order alone simply cannot accomplish. Not only does this fit with his stated aim of "restoring balance" to the universe, but it also conveys an implicit admission of his own weaknesses, since the mere fact that he needed the Doctor's assistance must have boosted the Doctor's ego, on both an individual and a philosophical level. After all, if Order flat-out states that it can't survive without a helping hand from Chaos, then an Agent of Chaos like the Doctor can't help but feel smug about such an acknowledgement of Chaos' merits, from Order itself. |
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Post by K-Box on Oct 19, 2008 0:40:20 GMT -8
Think fan entitlement started with NuWho? Then as lizbee points out, you need to think again:  On the one hand, this kid still sounds less scary than any number of modern fandom shippers. On the other, it's a mark of how sadly regressive we were back then, when teenage boys were actually shunning adult women for being not even a decade older than them, as opposed to now, when even many younger guys are smart enough to recognize the enduring sexuality of gals old enough, in some cases, to be their grandmothers (O HAI LIS SLADEN U IRRESISTIBLE MILF). |
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Post by paulpogue on Oct 19, 2008 7:55:50 GMT -8
Think fan entitlement started with NuWho? Then as lizbee points out, you need to think again: On the one hand, this kid still sounds less scary than any number of modern fandom shippers. On the other, it's a mark of how sadly regressive we were back then, when teenage boys were actually shunning adult women for being not even a decade older than them, as opposed to now, when even many younger guys are smart enough to recognize the enduring sexuality of gals old enough, in some cases, to be their grandmothers (O HAI LIS SLADEN U IRRESISTIBLE MILF). For those that don't click on the link, please do so, because the whole thing is totally awesome, particularly the Dalek hat and totally justified cheap shots at Lawrence Miles that demonstrate he was a complete bloody lunatic who is totally Wrong about all things Who and was so long before his Beast blog. |
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. "Wibbly wobbly timey wimey!", after all.