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Post by paulpogue on Jun 17, 2009 9:02:07 GMT -8
I'm pretty sure "not gutting the expanded universe" is far, far down on the list of Nu-Who priorities. Hell, they've never even bothered trying to keep a straight continuity with all that, or match it up to the show with any regularity, with "Lungbarrow" as exhibit A.
If they ever bring back, say, the Black Guardian or the Key to Time, I'm pretty sure the Big Finish "Key 2 Time" sequel saga is not going to be referenced.
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Post by Patty on Jun 17, 2009 11:17:00 GMT -8
Randomness for the sake of randomness...
I love when separate bits of my life come together.
Over on LiveJournal, I run a community called The Blog Stoker's DRACULA Project [BlogDracula], which presents the epistolary novel in "real time"... as in posting Jonathan Harker's, Mina Murray's, Dr. Seward's journals and diaries on the day they appear in the book.
On the homefront, Michael and I just finished watching the DOCTOR WHO Seventh Doctor story "The Curse of Fenric", which is set in the seaside town where Stoker's book has Dracula coming ashore after the wreck of the Demeter.
I've no clue how I missed that line from the Vicar, the Reverend Mister Wainwright, through the many times I've viewed this story. It's sychronicitously delicious, at least to me.
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Post by jkcarrier on Jun 17, 2009 16:16:45 GMT -8
I suspect it's going to be less a matter of the resurrection-creep that infected Krypton, and more a flat-out return of the whole damn thing. I hope you're right. Doing it any other way makes the Doctor look like an idiot: "Boo hoo, I'm the last of my species! Mind you, I didn't actually check around for any other survivors, but I'm pretty sure I'm the last one..."
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Post by paulpogue on Jun 17, 2009 17:43:27 GMT -8
I hope so too. Especially since his entire rationale for them not being around is "If there were any left, I would just know."
A particularly unwise statement from a guy who is fully aware of the existence of a completely foolproof method to hide a Time Lord even from themselves.
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Post by jessebaker on Jun 17, 2009 20:28:00 GMT -8
I'm pretty sure "not gutting the expanded universe" is far, far down on the list of Nu-Who priorities. Hell, they've never even bothered trying to keep a straight continuity with all that, or match it up to the show with any regularity, with "Lungbarrow" as exhibit A. If they ever bring back, say, the Black Guardian or the Key to Time, I'm pretty sure the Big Finish "Key 2 Time" sequel saga is not going to be referenced. Except they FUCKING DO, especially in the case of Romana. Remember Paul, Russell pretty much endorsed the whole "Romana the Time Lord President" plotline in his "Cliff-note version of the Time War" piece he did when the show relaunched. Again, it could be a case of them pandering to the Expanded Universe crowd simply out of apathy for the character but at the same time, they've gone out of their way to pretty much avoid mentioning Romana's name ON-CAMERA to even bother confirming her death or Presidency. Given the popularity of Romana (basically the only OG companion that can give Sarah Jane a run for her money as far as full-scale nuclear flame wars when it comes to Who fans arguing who the best OG Who companion is) it's something that should be laid to rest. Either have the Doctor give a throw-away line of dialogue that Romana being stuck in a parallel universe omitting her from his "They are all dead" BS (and handwaving the notion that for some reason, the Doctor can't access her universe) or bring the EU fate of Romana kicking and screaming into TV canon.
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Post by jbhelfrich on Jun 23, 2009 12:10:06 GMT -8
Remember Paul, Russell pretty much endorsed the whole "Romana the Time Lord President" plotline in his "Cliff-note version of the Time War" piece he did when the show relaunched. Do you have a link to this?
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Post by K-Box on Jun 23, 2009 13:02:35 GMT -8
Remember Paul, Russell pretty much endorsed the whole "Romana the Time Lord President" plotline in his "Cliff-note version of the Time War" piece he did when the show relaunched. Do you have a link to this? I'm sure he doesn't, but I actually remember this was well - basically, in an issue of Doctor Who Magazine whose text was copy-pasted online, Davies stated that Romana was president during the Time War. of course, since that never made it onscreen, he's still free to change it as he pleases, and tell everyone who remembers his interview, "Hey, remember when I said the Master was never coming back? Yeah, well, it's kind of like that." And what's frustrating is, with Davies, you really can't say whether he was lying all along, or whether he simply changed his mind and has been making it all up as he goes along.
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Post by K-Box on Jul 5, 2009 20:56:41 GMT -8
It started out as a joke, but it's since become my personal fanon that the Doctor's years spent as UNIT's scientific advisor were not his first period of forced exile on Earth, nor was Susan Foreman his first companion in traveling through time. Here's my theory: Some time before 1955, the man who we would come to know as the First Doctor was living in Hill Valley, California, as Doctor Emmett L. Brown, with no memories of his former life as a Time Lord, aside from his occasional curiosity about the antique fob-watch that he couldn't remember inheriting, not to mention his lifelong obsession with time travel. (The flux capacitor = the Eye of Harmony?) Even after his Time Lord status was restored, he'd grown fondly accustomed enough to the title of "Doctor" that he decided to keep it, and his experiences with the young man who'd become his best friend, and who saved his life from Libyan terrorists in 1985, wound up becoming a template for many of the relationships he'd develop with his later companions in time-traveling ... ... Some more than others. As amusingly silly as this conjecture is, it became much more likely, in my mind, once I realized that this would make Doc Brown's wife, Clara Clayton ... ... The grandmother of Susan Foreman: Admit it; you see the family resemblance, too.
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Post by Johann Chua on Jul 6, 2009 3:17:30 GMT -8
Bravo, Kirk.
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Post by paulpogue on Jul 6, 2009 16:09:46 GMT -8
Frak, that logic is almost airtight. Especially when you consider Doc Brown's obsession with clocks (and didn't he actually HAVE a fob watch?)
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Post by K-Box on Jul 6, 2009 17:59:09 GMT -8
Frak, that logic is almost airtight. Especially when you consider Doc Brown's obsession with clocks (and didn't he actually HAVE a fob watch?) He had EVERY kind of watch. He was wearing at least THREE wristwatches in the scene where he's preparing for lightning in the first movie. And I knew I had you as soon as I spotted the resemblance between Clara and Susan.
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Post by K-Box on Jul 17, 2009 1:50:44 GMT -8
NuWho possible spoilers: Interesting, if true, but I've learned to be wary of the British press in this regard. From The Mirror comes the latest word on the new companion, much of which echoes what's already been said, but some of which qualifies as new information, albeit of as-yet-unverified accuracy. Aside from hating the writing style of the article, this is interesting stuff. And I'd wondered whether the new girl was going to be Tegan or Nyssa, given the Moff's love of Five's run, so it looks like we've got NuTegan on our hands.
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Post by jensaltmann on Jul 17, 2009 2:59:24 GMT -8
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Post by K-Box on Jul 20, 2009 0:00:10 GMT -8
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Post by K-Box on Jul 20, 2009 0:49:30 GMT -8
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