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Post by K-Box on Feb 14, 2009 13:35:40 GMT -8
Just for balance, I look forward to seeing Justin Long appear next week as Doc Cottle's newest medical assistant, "Dr. Lexus," who will guide a recovered Anders through therapy for his brain damage by saying, "Well, don't wanna sound like a dick or nothin', but it says on your chart that you're fucked up. You talk like a fag, and your shit's all retarded ..."
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Post by K-Box on Feb 14, 2009 16:36:31 GMT -8
Just for balance, I look forward to seeing Justin Long appear next week as Doc Cottle's newest medical assistant, "Dr. Lexus," who will guide a recovered Anders through therapy for his brain damage by saying, "Well, don't wanna sound like a dick or nothin', but it says on your chart that you're fucked up. You talk like a fag, and your shit's all retarded ..." And since it was indicated to me that my reference might be a bit too obscure, please to enjoy this brief moment from Idiocracy:
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Post by michaelpaciocco on Feb 15, 2009 15:34:54 GMT -8
Speculation:
The 13th Colony was always under watch; a control group that was overviewed by a group of Templar-like group from Cobol. A group of humans that had "organic memory transfer"
Starbuck is part of that secret society.
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Post by K-Box on Feb 15, 2009 16:58:06 GMT -8
Speculation: The 13th Colony was always under watch; a control group that was overviewed by a group of Templar-like group from Cobol. A group of humans that had "organic memory transfer" Starbuck is part of that secret society. Certainly possible, at this point. Hell, I'm already amazed by how on the nose Jesse Baker wound up being, in his theories about Brother Cavil's significance, relative to the rest of his Cylon brethren. Dean Stockwell was fucking Win and Gold this week.
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Post by michaelpaciocco on Feb 22, 2009 8:54:11 GMT -8
And this week's episode...
...fell a bit flat. But then again, how could it not after last week's complete "HOLY FUCK ANSWERS!" episode.
Reaction points: -Oh, Gaius, you just never learn, do you? -Excuse me again, but the Cylons who want to jump away and build a "pure Cylon civilization" - unless your genome is radically different, with only 9 actual "sets of genetic information" that's going to be a pretty hard sell, unless you actually manage to build more models. -And Adama/Tigh Slashfic starts...now. -It was nice to see the contrast between the very capable and smart Ellen we saw last week and the massively fucked-up woman we all remember, and how that plays within the larger reasons of why the Cylons may have always been fucked up.
OK, your turn,
Michael
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Post by paulpogue on Feb 22, 2009 15:30:16 GMT -8
The big thing with Ellen is that she can be capable and smart in a situation in which she's totally in control, and she is very much not in control on Galactica. Even as a prisoner on the Base Ship, she knew full well she was superior to Cavil and could play him like a flute, and had a pretty good bet she could manipulate Boomer. Plus, Cavil's Cylons NEED her. Over on Galactica, almost since the beginning, her main issue has been that not only does nobody actually need her, a good chunk of people -- starting with but not limited to Bill Adama -- actively wish she just disappear. That totally pushes her buttons, and ends up in the incredibly clumsy manipulation attempts she ran this time around -- in which she didn't seriously consider the outcome of her actions, and ended up getting the opposite of what she wanted.
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Post by K-Box on Feb 23, 2009 0:11:31 GMT -8
I voted for Obama, but I still wish SHE could be my president: Inspired by seriousfic's excellent use of Obamicon.Me.
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Post by jbhelfrich on Feb 23, 2009 11:37:37 GMT -8
I think a big part of the problem with Ellen is that she hasn't really accepted that she's still dealing with the Colonial personas of the other four. She was mad at Tigh for boinking Caprica, when he'd only found out that they'd created them a couple days before, and even that was from a less than reliable source. She doesn't understand that the people she's dealing with are not the people she remembers.
On another note: Chief and Boomer back on, despite the looming implications of Chief and Tory? Also, do Tory's vindictive bitch actions make more sense now, or is she really just that unstable? And when one of them recycles and remembers, what happens?
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Post by jessebaker on Feb 23, 2009 12:36:44 GMT -8
Sadly I keep thinking that Tory's going to rebound straight to Anders, as far as Anders dumping Starbucks once he wakes up from his coma (in order to facilitate a Lee/Kate hook-up at the end of the series).
They've come too far with burying Cally, right down to retconning Nicky into being Hotdog's kid to let Tory stand in the way of Tyrol/Boomer reuniting.
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Post by michaelpaciocco on Feb 23, 2009 13:09:16 GMT -8
IOn another note: Chief and Boomer back on, despite the looming implications of Chief and Tory? Also, do Tory's vindictive bitch actions make more sense now, or is she really just that unstable? Both.
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Post by Anders on Feb 24, 2009 21:25:49 GMT -8
Hey now! I would never dump Starbucks. Wait, you were talking about the show and not my personal fantasies? Er, carry on then.
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Post by michaelpaciocco on Feb 28, 2009 21:43:49 GMT -8
So...that was an episode of BSG, alright.
Jeez, this one was just...no one ever has a good day, do they?
And I'm now convinced of my original theory: There is an illuminati/Templar group from old Cobol with the organic memory transfer.
People who are part of it (but don't know it for some reason): -Starbuck -Gaius Baltar -Laura Roslin
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Post by paulpogue on Mar 1, 2009 7:00:19 GMT -8
So much TV out there is predictable that I absolutely LOVE getting sideswiped by something I didn't see coming. And this episode did it TWICE in two minutes -- first when it became clear what Starbuck was doing on the piano, and then immediately thereafter, with what happened when the others confronted her. It's only been two days, but I'm being deliberately obtuse . I know some people probably saw one or both things coming a mile away, but I enjoyed getting gobsmacked by 'em both.
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Post by michaelpaciocco on Mar 1, 2009 7:33:50 GMT -8
oh, I was definitely knocked down by the twists, I'm with you there.
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Post by paulpogue on Mar 1, 2009 8:18:57 GMT -8
By the way, BSG composer Bear McCreary's blog has an extensive (VERY extensive) entry on the making of this episode. Given the huge role music plays here, it's a really good read. Plus, it's a great insight into the enormous amount of creative work that goes into any kind of series as well-constructed as this.
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