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Post by jarddavis on Nov 12, 2008 16:02:42 GMT -8
The biggest thing I've always been a fan about in Star Trek is the Ships. Kirk, Spock, Picard, Worf.. I can live without em. But I love the ships. I am not looking forward to the new Trek Movie, even if Simon Pegg is in it. Don't like the guy they got to play Kirk. Don't like the idea of reimagining it. I'd rather see them bump the Trek Timeline down another 75 years and explore serching strange new galaxies. (Personally I'd drop the time travel stuff though.) But I have to admit. The new ship? Noooot too shabby.
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Post by michaelpaciocco on Nov 16, 2008 18:42:05 GMT -8
You be the judge (assuming you get to it before it's taken off)
Michael
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Post by Anders on Nov 16, 2008 23:09:39 GMT -8
It looks cool but it also looks nothing like Star Trek. Could be a fun romp and the fact that it's likely to get the hardcore fans in a state canon-molestation induced catatonia is a bonus.
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Post by jensaltmann on Nov 17, 2008 3:07:01 GMT -8
Count me among the haters. Then again, it's JJ Abrams. Hating his work has become as reflexive to me as hating Akiva Goldsman's.
One reason for hating is, Abrams is a Trek-disliker. Which indicates that when tasked to make a Trek movie, he will use some Trek trappings to make what he considers a cool movie.
That said, I consider the time travel story a mistake, story wise. If you want to do a full and clean reboot, do it. Make a clean break. Like with Bond. Say, "Nothing that has happened before has actually happened." Tying your reboot to the previous incarnation is fan-baiting, probably for the sake of creating a teapot-tempest controversy, and you lose cool points for that. Massively. You don't need to fan-bait if your work can stand on its own.
Me? I won't pay to see this.
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Post by jensaltmann on Nov 17, 2008 3:08:19 GMT -8
The biggest thing I've always been a fan about in Star Trek is the Ships. Kirk, Spock, Picard, Worf.. I can live without em. But I love the ships. Me, too. The Enterprise A was the most beautiful thing to ever sail the stars.
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Post by K-Box on Nov 17, 2008 5:00:08 GMT -8
Little thing that's probably indicative of bigger problems?
I find it hilarious that they couldn't even come up with their own distinctive score.
The music you hear in the background?
That's from the Sci-Fi Channel miniseries of Children of Dune.
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Post by michaelpaciocco on Nov 17, 2008 15:09:15 GMT -8
I'm neither pessimistic or optimistic on this. I was a die-hard trekkie from age 6-16, and yeah, I see some problems, certainly, but hey, at this point? whatever, give it a shot. Every other franchise is getting a "re-imagining", so why not one more? My biggest problem is that there isn't much focus on "exploring" space the way it used to be, but unfortunately, it's true of Western society as a whole that there isn't much interest in that anymore.
Also not too crazy about time-travel. As far as Abrams goes, I've never really seen anything of his that I can remember, so, yeah, no opinion.
Michael
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Post by Anders on Nov 18, 2008 0:05:04 GMT -8
Relevant comic strip:
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Post by jensaltmann on Nov 18, 2008 2:52:18 GMT -8
The trailer is shiny and busy, I'll give you that. If they'd entrusted it to (almost) anyone else, I might give the movie a chance.
I don't trust Abrams, however. Any more than I'd trust Akiva Goldsman or Michael Bay.
I hear the writers are the same who wrote Transformers.
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Post by paulpogue on Nov 18, 2008 13:06:17 GMT -8
Little thing that's probably indicative of bigger problems? I find it hilarious that they couldn't even come up with their own distinctive score. The music you hear in the background? That's from the Sci-Fi Channel miniseries of Children of Dune. I'll give them a tiny bit of slack on that one, though; movie trailers, even big-time franchises, rip off others all the time, since the music is one of the last elements added to a film. I'd bet any amount of money that Michael Giacchino is doing this score, and he's very well known for respecting the past to an almost obscenely nerd-baiting degree. His "Cloverfield" overture was basically the original Godzilla theme amped up a couple of notches, and his "Speed Racer" score was a damn near perfect combination of modern synthesizer, huge orchestrations, the American Speed Racer theme and the Japanese Mach-Go-Go-Go theme. (I wouldn't have bet any amount of money on being able to combine all four.) That said, they really lose points for not at least using a flicker of the classic "Space -- the final frontier" notes. I can even see the point in the middle of the trailer where they would have fit perfectly.
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