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Post by K-Box on Jun 21, 2009 11:56:14 GMT -8
Not sure about Slott, but agreed about Waid - aside from Linda Park, pretty much every female character he's written that I can think of, from Sharon Carter in Captain America to Wonder Woman in Kingdom Come, has made me cringe, because his "strong women" tend to be defined by being a) unpleasantly uptight and b) ultimately proven wrong by the alpha males in their lives.
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Post by jensaltmann on Jun 23, 2009 0:33:26 GMT -8
Sure, it's been around longer and has had time to accumulate more readers, but... My comic Primal (art by Hamo) has had over 62,000 readers now. www.myebook.com/account.php?option=ebook_manager&action=listActivePlus another 17,000 over at the original Webcomics Nation site. Does that mean my little comic is more popular than Spider-Man? [/tongue-in-cheek] |
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Post by Anders on Jun 23, 2009 10:29:29 GMT -8
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Post by K-Box on Jun 24, 2009 16:08:09 GMT -8
Lily Hollister, Harry Osborn's ex-fiancee, has been pregnant for a while now.
Amazing Spider-Man #598 revealed who the father of her unborn child is.
For those of you who were too stupid to guess this one correctly, or too hopeful that the NuSpidey "brain trust" might not descend to such obvious and disgusting levels of suck and fail?
IT'S NORMAN OSBORN, BITCHES.
Go ahead and tell me again how I'm "missing out" by not giving the NuSpidey era a chance. I dare you.
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Post by paulpogue on Jun 24, 2009 20:09:39 GMT -8
To be fair, it's still not as awful a plot twist as retroactively having Gwen Stacy bang Norman Osborn. It's merely ... lame.
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Post by jensaltmann on Jun 24, 2009 23:01:22 GMT -8
I'm still waiting for the reveal that Norman Osborne is Peter Parker's biological father, and Uncle Ben's death was not a random burglar but rather a contract killing because Ben had found out about it and Norman didn't want him to tell Peter.
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Post by michaelpaciocco on Jun 26, 2009 16:05:45 GMT -8
You know, I'm still a bit confused - how is the public of the Marvel U dealing with the whole multiple Spider-Man thing? Is there a Daily Bugle article that praises the "Spider-Man Black" of Norman Osborn's Avengers and then condemning "Spidey Classic"? Does the public of the Marvel U even understand that there are two separate Spider-men? I mean, given how generally retarded the civilian population of Marvel America is, I'm not sure they can make this distinction. It must be very confusing for them. Nevermind that this maybe should have been cleared up SIX FUCKING MONTHS AGO.
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Post by paulpogue on Jun 27, 2009 17:14:35 GMT -8
Just think of how confused they must be by Wolverine! Heck, given that he's a highly ambiguous figure anyway, the presence of a Dark Wolverine in the official Avengers probably doesn't strike anybody as particularly odd.
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Post by jensaltmann on Jul 3, 2009 2:28:54 GMT -8
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Post by michaelpaciocco on Jul 12, 2009 8:07:08 GMT -8
Epiphany:
Post-OMD Peter Parker = An even lamer Phillip J. Fry, without any of the inherent decency.
Discuss.
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Post by paulpogue on Jul 12, 2009 8:22:54 GMT -8
You know what's sad? I pulled Spider-Man #75 out of storage while I was messing with some things -- the Howard Mackie-penned conclusion to the Clone Saga.
Let me just repeat those words again so they're clear: HOWARD MACKIE. CLONE SAGA.
And it was, no joking, at least ten times more inspiring and heroic than ANYTHING I've seen come out of Spidey in years.
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Post by jbhelfrich on Jul 12, 2009 20:14:54 GMT -8
Paul, I will forgive this because it is just possible that Spider Man has sunk this low, as long as you're talking about stuff after JMS got his hands tied behind his back for his last arc. I'm not reading, I can't be sure.
But just for the record, if you ever find something nice to say about "Richard Ashford"'s Excalibur, I will no longer speak to you.
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Post by jessebaker on Jul 12, 2009 22:38:58 GMT -8
You know what's sad? I pulled Spider-Man #75 out of storage while I was messing with some things -- the Howard Mackie-penned conclusion to the Clone Saga. Let me just repeat those words again so they're clear: HOWARD MACKIE. CLONE SAGA. And it was, no joking, at least ten times more inspiring and heroic than ANYTHING I've seen come out of Spidey in years. It helps that Norman's return was a holy shit moment (seriously, no one saw it coming really) plus it was so far out there that given the bullshit of the Clone Saga, that having Norman be the mastermind as part of a nonsensical Xanathos Roulette scheme designed primarily to drive Peter Parker to madness worked, since who else would go to ALL THAT TROUBLE just to fuck with Spidey? Plus, Mackie seemingly brought his A-Game to the issue, which makes me wonder how much having Bob Harras LITERALLY over his shoulders during the writing process made it so that we got Bob Mackie using his full ass and not his usual half-ass. He definately made Norman a scary ass magnificent bastard in that issue, which helped with the haphazard insertion of him as the Xanathos Roulette mastermind of everything. Had they made it Doctor Octopus (which is what Jurgans wanted) or Harry Osborn (which is what everyone else wanted before Harras over-ruled and demanded Norman instead) it wouldn't have had the "Holy Shit!" nature as the reveal that Norman was alive and behind everything in a deliberate attempt to drive Spidey to madness. |
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Post by paulpogue on Jul 13, 2009 9:52:37 GMT -8
Joe: I'm mostly just thinking everything after JMS pretty much lost control of the franchise, and post-OMD in particular. Although to be fair, pretty much everything going back to Civil War is uniformly awful.
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Post by K-Box on Jul 14, 2009 0:42:46 GMT -8
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