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Post by michaelpaciocco on Sept 13, 2008 12:13:14 GMT -8
Menace is: Harry Osborne - 50% Lil Hollister - 20% Lil's friend the patholigist who's name I can't be bothered to give two shits about - 20%
Pa Kent will die: 99%. Almost certain at this point.
White Lanterns!
Ok, as someone pointed out, the whole "Blackest Night" with the Black Lanterns will likely end with someone "Mastering the Emotional Spectrum", whatever the hell that means to become a "white Lantern", at least temporarily.
So, who's up for that job? Hal Jordan - 50%. He's already mastered Green, Yellow, and Red. Kyle Rayner - 40% John Stewart - 30% Sinestro - 75%
Ok, that's all for me for now,
Michael
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Post by jessebaker on Sept 13, 2008 12:48:05 GMT -8
The only one I can think of to be "White Lantern" would be a resurrected Katma Tui, since she's dead and can as such, have mastery over the black death power of the black lanterns.
I'd also toss in this: what kind of hell is Bendis up to with Wasp in Secret Invasion, per the conversation between "Hank" and "Spider-Woman" in Secret Invasion #6?
Wasp is the real Skrull Queen and Spider-Woman is her proxy/stand-in?
Wasp is going to explode like an A-Bomb due to the "growth serem" she was given by "Hank"?
Wasp has been turned into a disease carrier, as part of a super-secret tie-in with "The Stand" comic adaption, as far as "Hank" giving her the Captain Trips virus?
Wasp has switched sides and will betray the heroes at a key moment in the fight to ensure Skrull victory?
Wasp is going to turn into a literal real-doll Ultron ala Tony Stark at the climax of the fight?
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Post by jensaltmann on Sept 15, 2008 1:24:38 GMT -8
I'd actually rate Harry as Menace higher than 50%. Menace seems to have issues with Norman, and his equipment is refurbished Goblin equipment. 75%.
I'd also say that Hal Jordan becoming a White Lantern is at about the same level. Hal Jordan is the Greatest Green Lantern That Evah Lived, There Can Be Only One, Hal Ours Who Though Art in Heaven and all that. Anyone else becoming a WL would go counter that.
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Post by jensaltmann on Sept 15, 2008 1:26:35 GMT -8
Wasp has switched sides and will betray the heroes at a key moment in the fight to ensure Skrull victory? Wasp is just one more Skrull agent: 100%. Anything else would require Bendis to be creative. He isn't. Therefore, a variant to Occam's Razor applies: the most obvious answer is the correct one.
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Post by paulpogue on Sept 15, 2008 20:59:31 GMT -8
I'd actually rate Harry as Menace higher than 50%. Menace seems to have issues with Norman, and his equipment is refurbished Goblin equipment. 75%. I'd also say that Hal Jordan becoming a White Lantern is at about the same level. Hal Jordan is the Greatest Green Lantern That Evah Lived, There Can Be Only One, Hal Ours Who Though Art in Heaven and all that. Anyone else becoming a WL would go counter that. Maybe, but Geoff Johns, for all his Hal love, isn't actually one of those Hal-as-Messiah types that he seemed to threaten to turn into circa "Rebirth" -- he's got a pretty good grip on Hal's limitations. Sinestro as White Lantern, in retrospect, makes a tremendous amount of sense, given that Johns has gone to great pains over the last four years to backengineer Alan Moore's Blackest Night setup into a redemptive arc for Sinestro. This idea that Sinestro ALWAYS KNEW this hellhole was coming along like a freight train, and that EVERYTHING he has ever done has been part of a grand plan to stop it, is nothing short of brilliant. It also fits the general idea that Sinestro is, at heart, a basically decent individual who will stop at nothing for the greater good. (Not to mention someone who is so adept at this that he fucking outgamed the Guardians AND the Anti-Monitor in a carefully crafted scheme to move it all forward.) The idea of being forced to do evil for the greater good is a strong one, and one that deserves to be explored more in comics. (Genre stories as a whole usually follow the Star Trek II principle of "the good of the many does not outweigh the good of the few" and all that, but in the real world, it doesn't usually work that way. In the real REAL world, the few -- by which I mean all of western civilization -- benefit at the tremendous detriment of the many.) Hell, Tony Stark WOULD be a powerful case study in this, if it weren't for the fact that the creators themselves have relentlessly paraded him as some sort of paragon of Right and Good, and that he was totally right all through Civil War. But a decent story along these lines has to admit, first and foremost, that a person making these sort of moral compromises is still, at day's end, the Bad Guy. Doing that with Tony Stark is highly problematic. With Sinestro, it fits perfectly.
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Post by jessebaker on Sept 15, 2008 23:09:11 GMT -8
I still say Katma=White Lantern, if only because she's the HUGE fucking elephant in the room right now Green Lantern-wise. Hell, if Hal's barely legal gf Arrisa can be freaking resurrected, why not Katma? ESPECIALLY since more people would want JS and Katma together than to watch McDuffie ramrod Stewart into a relationship with Emo Hawkgirl, who is devoid of ALL of the traits that made JL/JLU Hawkgirl and the Hawkgirl/Stewart 'shipper pair popular......
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Post by paulpogue on Sept 24, 2008 18:33:25 GMT -8
Hey, gang: Now that the old boards appear to be gone for good, can someone refresh my memory as to what the running guesses as to the identity of Red Hulk were?
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Post by paulpogue on Sept 24, 2008 18:52:36 GMT -8
By the way, I find it highly interesting that as of Hulk #6, we have exactly half of the founding Avengers together again as a team (if you want to count Rick Jones, which any sane person does.)
Iron Man, Hank and Janet sort of count (though most of that time, Hank was definitely a Skrull and Janet probably was as well.) I just find it noteworthy that Hulk, Thor and Rick have all but formed an ad hoc team.
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Post by paulpogue on Sept 24, 2008 19:23:13 GMT -8
After "Avengers: The Initiative" #17:
Odds that Mutant Zero is anyone other than Jean Grey or Typhoid Mary: 5 percent and dropping.
I really like my theory that it's Kitty Pryde -- and I honestly think she makes a hell of a lot more sense than almost anyone else, right down to the timing of her arrival -- but the events of this issue seem to eliminate almost all characters in the Marvel U. Mutant Zero is a redhead (not necesssarily a deal-breaker in any case, though -- hair dye is an amazing thing), but more importantly, her greatest fear is herself, and more specifically, the dark side of herself, a side that has a name. We never quite get the name, as M-Zero clocks the person checking her out. But I can't foresee any sentence like that, in the circumstances we're seeing, that ends with anythin gbut "the dark side named Phoenix" or "the dark side named Mary."
Typhoid Mary is a long, long shot anyway. If you take seriously Dan Slott's assertion that Mutant Zero is someone who's been cover-worthy many times, and it's someone so familiar that even non-comics-readers would recognize her, it can't be anyone but Jean Grey. (Hell, that "non-comics-readers" line really limits it to the X-Women featured in the movies.)
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Post by jessebaker on Sept 24, 2008 20:56:16 GMT -8
I still don't think Mutant Zero is Jean Grey; for starters, you think the X-Men editors would let someone like Slott do a big money storyline like the return of Jean Grey in freaking Avengers Initiative?
Secondly, would Quesada even want Jean back? Given that he's being shitted on by the Spider-Man shippers for breaking up Peter and MJ, you want to think that Quesada would want the can of worms that is Jean/Scott/Emma/Wolverine? Especially in light of the fact that fans have started turning against Emma due to the "My shit don't stink"-ness of how she's been written since Morrison left the X-Books? Given that he's exhausted pretty much all of his political capital with breaking up MJ and Peter, you honestly think he can keep with a straight face the notion of Jean/Cyclops being over forever-ever once Jean Grey comes back?
(And yeah, I know they might use the whole thing to FINALLY do Jean Grey/Wolverine but to do so, you would pretty much have to ban all X-Men writers from using Wolverine and Jean and shuttle them off to New Avengers to make it work realistically, since Cyclops/White Queen would be over the second Scott learns Jean was alive, let alone the sort of hellish clique warfare that would result as far as every man in the X-Men roster going after Jean romantically the second she shows back up, especially with regards to Angel).
That said, Typhoid Mary is the only real sane choice, especially when you factor in that we haven't seen her since M-Day. Plus there is the potential to be had reforming the character, given that Mary's long been a sympathetic villaind due to her multiple personality disorder.
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Post by jessebaker on Sept 24, 2008 21:03:33 GMT -8
Hey, gang: Now that the old boards appear to be gone for good, can someone refresh my memory as to what the running guesses as to the identity of Red Hulk were? Doc Samson Thunderbolt Ross Betty Ross-Banner
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Post by Anders on Sept 24, 2008 21:43:18 GMT -8
Jesse, you're doing that thing again where you assume that everyone - particularly editors and writers - have the same opinions on how the characters ultimately work as you. Specifically, this:
is pure bullshit, because you and me both know that all it takes is a single writer with enough of a boner for writing the X-Men this way to make it happen. The way the characters act in your head has no bearing on how someone will write them.
Whew! It felt to get that off my chest.
And now back to your regularly scheduled nerdrage...
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Post by Mario Di Giacomo on Sept 25, 2008 2:50:01 GMT -8
Maddy Pryor is also a vague possibility, although I'm not sure if hshe's actually a mutant.
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Post by michaelpaciocco on Oct 23, 2008 13:27:39 GMT -8
Based on Today's SHOCKING revelations in various "Marvel Comics" (btw, if you aren't reading this with a large degree of sarcasm, you simply have not been paying attention):
Emo Flash Thompson - 90% Bitter Flash Thompson-80% Flash will become the new Grasshopper (or whatever he's called; the armor from the Great Lakes Avengers/Initiative/etc that was Slott's running gag of whomever was wearing it being killed within the space of a page) - 50% Flash as Grasshopper dying a horrible pointless rapid death - 20% Flash becoming "the one True Grasshopper because he has the true spirit of blah blah blah" - 80%
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Post by lostphrack on Oct 25, 2008 2:49:29 GMT -8
What are the odds that Hood's going to be the new sorcerer supreme? I'm guessing about 70% now..?
Maybe Ian McNee at 20% and dropping..?
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