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Post by K-Box on Oct 8, 2008 2:24:38 GMT -8
So, after John McCain's ... memorable characterization of Barack Obama, during the Tuesday night debate ... ... THIS is the new Republican Party campaign meme: Politico - GOP likes 'that one' tooA Republican official emails, on background: The most memorable line of the night belonged to John McCain. McCain pointed out that "That One" vote for the '05 energy bill. Look for Republicans to note in coming days that "That One" also voted for higher taxes at least 94 times; "That One" has associations with unrepentant terrorists, etc. ...
ON WHAT FUCKING BIZARRO-WORLD DOES THE GOP THINK THAT SUCH AN OVERTLY RACIALLY-TINGED TALKING POINT PHRASE IS GOING TO DO ANYTHING BUT DRIVE AWAY UNDECIDED VOTERS??? I APOLOGIZE FOR THE CAPS LOCK ABUSE BUT THERE IS SIMPLY NO OTHER WAY TO EXPRESS HOW STUNNED I AM AT THE SHEER SELF-DESTRUCTIVE FUCKTARDERY OF SUCH A MOVE, EVEN BY CURRENT NEOCONSERVATIVE STANDARDS SO, FUCK IT, LET'S DO AS THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN HAS ALREADY DONE WITH THE REST OF MCCAIN'S ATTACKS, AND TURN THIS ONE AGAINST THEM, TOO, BY DECLARING OUR SUPPORT FOR ...
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Post by hhbx on Oct 9, 2008 11:56:29 GMT -8
Yeah, but you have to admit it's probably better then "Tied Up In Vietnam" and "Long Silent Pause" for campaign slogans. No clue how "That One" is racially tinged, but whatever I guess.
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Post by jensaltmann on Oct 10, 2008 0:59:30 GMT -8
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Post by Anders on Oct 10, 2008 1:22:42 GMT -8
That was brilliant!
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Post by jensaltmann on Oct 11, 2008 2:32:27 GMT -8
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Post by K-Box on Oct 11, 2008 4:55:08 GMT -8
If this is true, then McCain is in deep shit. Crooked Timber - A bit of horserace commentarySo I hear (via a prominent member of the sane Republican faction) that the word on the right side of the street is that the Republican National Committee is about to pull the plug on its joint ads with the McCain campaign, and devote its resources instead to trying to save a couple of the senators who are at serious risk of losing their seats.Now this is gossip, albeit of the high class variety; take it with the requisite pinch of salt. But it points to some real vulnerabilities in the McCain campaign’s finances.
McCain’s decision to opt for public funding has meant that he’s had enormous difficulty competing with the Obama money raising machine. He’s been able to partly compensate by co-financing ads with the RNC (this skirts the limits of the legislation that he himself co-wrote but is just about legal). This has kept him competitive in TV advertising, albeit still significantly outgunned.
But if the Republicans are as worried as they should be about the impending elections, there will be a lot of calls on that money, and the RNC is going to have to make some tough choices. Should it keep spending money on the presidential campaign in the hope that McCain will win despite the polls, or should it instead try to minimize the damage of a McCain defeat by doing its best to stop the Democrats from making big gains in the Senate? Decisions, decisions …
LOL at McCain being hamstrung by his own earlier decency, RE: campaign financing.
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Post by K-Box on Oct 15, 2008 19:25:12 GMT -8
Ben Smith's Blog: Voting for Obama anyway - Politico.comI just got an astounding e-mail from a Republican consultant I know well. He's a guy who's always thought Obama had a "glass jaw," and was always among those agitating for hitting Obama harder. Recently, he conducted a focus group in an upper-Midwestern state, showing them the kind of ad he thought would work: A no-holds-barred attack, cut for an independent group, which hasn't aired. I'm just going to reprint his amazed e-mail about the focus group:
I love the frenzied, desperate tone of hysterical disbelief in the e-mail. Every rule that's been written in the Republican Party playbook since 1988 has just been thrown straight out the fucking window, because every single supposed truism that they've held as axiomatic about how to run a campaign has just been proven false. That's what you get for rejecting membership into "the reality-based community," bitches.
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Post by K-Box on Oct 15, 2008 19:36:58 GMT -8
So, how did they do? This one actually surprised me ... CBS Poll: Uncommitted Voters Say Obama Won Final DebateAs in the previous debates, CBS News and Knowledge Networks have conducted a nationally representative poll of uncommitted voters to get their immediate reaction to tonight's presidential debate. In the first presidential debate, second presidential debate and vice presidential debate, more uncommitted voters said the Democratic candidate was the victor. And it looks like tonight's results will make it a clean sweep. These numbers are preliminary, and will change slightly as more respondents are added, but here's where things stand with most of the results in: Fifty-three percent of the uncommitted voters surveyed identified Democratic nominee Barack Obama as the winner of tonight's debate. Twenty-two percent said Republican rival John McCain won. Twenty-four percent saw the debate as a draw. More uncommitted voters trusted Obama than McCain to make the right decisions about health care. Before the debate, 61 percent of uncommitted voters said that they trust Obama on that; after, 69 percent said that. For McCain, 27 percent trusted him to manage health care before the debate; 30 percent said so afterwards. 63 percent think Obama will raise their taxes, while 48 percent think McCain will. Before the debate, 54 percent thought Obama shared their values. That percentage rose to 63 percent after the debate. For McCain, 53 percent thought he shared their values before the debate, and 56 percent thought so afterwards. We will have a full report on the poll later on. Uncommitted voters are those who don't yet know who they will vote for, or who have chosen a candidate but may still change their minds.
I'm astonished that Barack Obama won this poll by such a wide margin, however preliminary the results might be. This was easily his worst debate performance, and John McCain's best debate performance, in the post-primary season. That being said, in spite of McCain's strong showing on economic issues, he probably lost as a result of turning off uncommitted voters by acting like a huge gigantic douchebag about William Ayers and John Lewis, which allowed Obama to appear super-classy and presidential by comparison.
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Post by Anders on Oct 15, 2008 19:58:04 GMT -8
I never, ever trust stories based on e-mails from non-named sources.
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Post by K-Box on Oct 16, 2008 7:10:31 GMT -8
I never, ever trust stories based on e-mails from non-named sources. Fair point, but this was a story posted by a conservative-leaning blogger on a conservative-leaning site, which means that making up such a story would run counter to the best interests of his side.
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Post by K-Box on Oct 16, 2008 7:11:52 GMT -8
How to PWN your debate opponent with one word:
"Zero?" "ZERO."
LOL at McCain's stunned silence. In spite of how rehearsed he is, and how publicized Obama's plans are, you can see in his eyes that he has literally not the first clue how to respond to this line.
PWNED BY PBAMA
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Post by Anders on Oct 16, 2008 8:19:15 GMT -8
I never, ever trust stories based on e-mails from non-named sources. Fair point, but this was a story posted by a conservative-leaning blogger on a conservative-leaning site, which means that making up such a story would run counter to the best interests of his side. Posting the story at all would run counter to their best interests.
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Post by hhbx on Oct 16, 2008 8:41:03 GMT -8
How to PWN your debate opponent with one word: "Zero?" "ZERO." LOL at McCain's stunned silence. In spite of how rehearsed he is, and how publicized Obama's plans are, you can see in his eyes that he has literally not the first clue how to respond to this line. PWNED BY PBAMA It's also nice to see him come straight out and just answer the question for once rather then do the whole run around shell game he gave to the same question in the last debate, granted, that pretty much what was the second debate as a whole. Course, I thought Obama insinuated early in the debate that this Joe the Fucker or whatever his name is already at the $250,000 mark. EDIT: Snipped video (with neither a hatchet nor a scapel, but with a spoon) so not as much space is being taken up.
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Post by Anders on Oct 16, 2008 11:33:29 GMT -8
Irresistably funny pic:
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Post by K-Box on Oct 16, 2008 17:20:20 GMT -8
Posting the story at all would run counter to their best interests. My point exactly. I tend to give such anonymous hearsay more credit when it's offered as testimony by a witness who's speaking against his own interests by submitting it.
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