The Star Trek thread

[michaelpaciocco]

Oct 15, 2009 15:29:24 GMT -8 jarddavis said:

Voyager would have been a lot more enjoyable to me if we'd have seen a serious struggle to maintain those high falutin' prinicpals that Starfleet is so proud of and the occasional "...hmm get my people home or keep the prime directive" conflicts from Janeway.

One thing about Enterprise, especially during the third season, is that was actually dealt with. And it was one of the few aspects of Enteprise that I liked.

It did get dealt with with rather serious consequences towards the latter half of the 6th season, the whole Equinox thing, but by then I didn't really care any more, so...

Yeah, Equinox was a good arc, if for no other reason than it was a good bit of classic OS Star Trek - "The Captain gone bad" trope.

Oct 15, 2009 15:29:24 GMT -8 jarddavis said:

Of course "New" doesn't equal "Good." But get the right people on it, and it could. But you're right about the Apathy thing.

There's also the fact that no creator in their right mind these days wants to hand over a potentially multimillion dollar franchise without due compensation and creative control (See: JMS), while corporations are reluctant to make the large capital investments without being able to control the cashflow themselves. So it's a give and take thing.

Oct 15, 2009 15:29:24 GMT -8 jarddavis said:

One of the reasosn I think Firefly appealed to so many was that these were people as far away from the Trek standard as you can get. Thieves. Pirates. Anti-Government. Rebels. And the ship was not new and shiny. And it was still cool. But Fox did their best to make sure Firefly got killed before it could really take off. Which I'm sure they've been kicking themselves for ever since.

Or maybe not.

Well, the first thing you've got to know is that I'm over my anti-hero kick, so the routing for anti-government rebels and Pirates that are struggling against a totalitarian government? Yeah, I Farscape had me covered for that. Now, if they were generally a little more ruthless and amoral, or if the Alliance wasn't a totally manipulative evil government empire, and had more nuance and shades of grey or heaven forfend, a good side to it, I might see your point. As it was, well....no, sorry, I just saw a "ragtag rebel band" struggling as the underdog against another evil empire.