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Post by jessebaker on Feb 5, 2010 22:57:26 GMT -8
Anyone watch this tonight?
I haven't watched Smallville in ages but DAMN! The two hour JSA episode was a nice reminder of how good the show can be when it wants to. I like the casting of Michael Shanks as Hawkman, though part of me wishes they could have, as a knod to the screwy origins of the Hawks, made Hawkgirl the Silver Age Hawkgirl and that rather than dying, she simply returned to her home planet and left a bitter and jaded Hawkman to stew in his anger at losing the woman he loved.
But the biggest things is that we seem to be heading towards introducing Suicide Squad into Smallville canon, which could be great depending on how they pull it off. Also, the cryptic reference to "Apocalypse" makes me wonder if we are going to get Superman Vs Darkseid before show goes off the air.
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Post by Mario Di Giacomo on Feb 6, 2010 5:56:47 GMT -8
she simply returned to her home planet and left a bitter and jaded Hawkman to stew in his anger at losing the woman he loved. That wouldn't have fed into the whole "I want to die so I can be with her in the next life, but my sense of duty won't let me" bit, though More than "heading to", I'd say. Waller said as much, when she "recruited" Icicle II. |
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Post by paulpogue on Feb 6, 2010 6:22:16 GMT -8
Five years ago I would have totally bet against Darkseid ever appearing on the show, but once they did Doomsday complete with actual Doomsday look, I'd say anything is possible.
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Post by Mario Di Giacomo on Feb 6, 2010 10:17:13 GMT -8
If I had my druthers, they'd take a page from Morrison and use an ostensibly normal Boss Dark Side, and hint at an aura of something greater when needed. Old Stoneface himself may not translate well. But if I get onto how I'd write the New Gods, I'd never shut up (that's why I chose Aquaman in the other thread.  ) |
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Post by Anders on Feb 7, 2010 21:43:57 GMT -8
"the dialogue sets my teeth on edge"
It was so corny and comic-booky that I was able to finish their lines before they did.
Verbatim.
OH SHIT SORRY!!!!
I thought I had clicked on "quote." I didn't realize I had clicked on "modify" until it was too late.
I'm very sorry. That happened because I was arguing with my wife while doing this.
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Post by jensaltmann on Feb 8, 2010 0:26:57 GMT -8
I figured they were taken down in the 1950s, during the McCathy era. But your point re: aging remains unaltered by those 20 years.
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Post by Mario Di Giacomo on Feb 8, 2010 3:20:06 GMT -8
Various sources suggest they were active in the 70's. There's nothing in the ep that points at a WW2 origin.
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Post by jensaltmann on Feb 8, 2010 6:12:15 GMT -8
The one thing that almost ruins my enjoyment of this is: why has nobody in the episode ever heard of them before? Chloe, being a meta-conspiracy-nut since the first season, should at least have been familiar with rumors about a superteam from the 1970s. It's not *that* long ago, and the period is pretty well documented.
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Post by paulpogue on Feb 8, 2010 7:25:38 GMT -8
They're hit with the same affliction that caused Clark and Lana to completely forget the eleventy jillion times they'd previously told each other they never want to speak again (until the next episode) and the mass-mindwipe used to hide all the bodies on the Kent farm. Hell, Chloe usually forgot that Lionel tried to kill her.
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Post by Anders on Feb 8, 2010 7:48:26 GMT -8
Jens: No worries; it's not like it was a Shakespeare sonnet or anything. Maybe they kept the timing intentionally vague. I just snagged the line about the "golden age of gangsters" and thought the grainy footage matched. I'll have to look at those bits again, but the more I think about it the more I think it was written to be unclear. |
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Post by Anders on Feb 8, 2010 7:56:15 GMT -8
And to answer that:
It's not so much that they're speaking in clichés so worn-out that if they were jeans no father would let his daughter wear them as that they're not aware that they're doing it. These are supposed to be at least moderately (and in several cases highly) intelligent young people; yet they treat ridiculously corny expressions that have been around for decades as if they were brand new and profoundly moving, exactly the way young people (or nearly any other people) don't.
I think that if I ever watch Smallville again I'll do it with the sound turned off so I can at least pretend they're saying something interesting.
Blech, I don't want to tear down this particular episode. At least they did the superheroy stuff okay. (Well, other than Doc Fate's plastic-looking helmet. Okay, okay! I'll shut up now!)
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Post by michaelpaciocco on Feb 8, 2010 16:26:08 GMT -8
I think it was goofy fun. For a show that avoids goofy fun like the plague. That's something in and of itself.
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Post by jensaltmann on Feb 9, 2010 3:06:10 GMT -8
I think that if I ever watch Smallville again I'll do it with the sound turned off so I can at least pretend they're saying something interesting. [...] Well, other than Doc Fate's plastic-looking helmet. I actually liked Doc Fate's helmet. And I intend to watch Smallville one more time: the episode where Clark gets his glasses, to find out how they explain it that nobody recognized him as Superman from that point on. (Okay, maybe more -- if they bring the LSH back, I'll watch too.) |
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Post by Mario Di Giacomo on Feb 9, 2010 3:28:43 GMT -8
I actually liked Doc Fate's helmet. And I intend to watch Smallville one more time: the episode where Clark gets his glasses, to find out how they explain it that nobody recognized him as Superman from that point on. (Okay, maybe more -- if they bring the LSH back, I'll watch too.) I don't think it's the glasses. His current codename is "the Blur", so I'm guessing he sticks to the shadows and moves fast when in costume. |
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Post by jensaltmann on Feb 9, 2010 12:14:42 GMT -8
"I don't think it's the glasses. His current codename is "the Blur", so I'm guessing he sticks to the shadows and moves fast when in costume. "
So when he finally has his coming-out as Superman, and Clark takes to wearing glasses, nobody will call out, "Clark! Why are you wearing that funny red and blue outfit?"
That has nothing to do with him being the Blur. Maybe nobody will associate Superman with the Blur, or Clark with the Blur. But that's a completely different matter.
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